UFO - a cigar-shaped brilliant white light
As for UFOs, I don't know. I do know that some people are nuts or just plain liars. I do know that optical illusions can be very misleading. I do know that governments are always up to something. I do know that Satan is capable of anything. I don't know that aliens from far, far away are cruising about the firmament.
There is one incident that occurred to me that I can say is an honest to goodness mystery. Unexplainable. Just plain weird.
I was at my mother's. My cousin, her boyfriend, my aunt and myself were sitting around the kitchen table, chatting. It was a summer's night. Clear and calm. I'm facing a large window about 20 feet away. The window is not covered, so it's reflecting everything inside like a mirror as it's pitch black outside. Behind me is the kitchen area.
Our conversation is interrupted when suddenly we hear a loud explosion coming directly from behind me in the kitchen area. Facing the window, I not only heard the noise but caught the reflection in that window of a huge flash of bright white light behind me, coinciding with the explosion. There are no appliances in that area.
Immediately after the flash and explosion we hear a long drawn out sound as if the metal garage door is being raised. The garage sits off of the kitchen so it would be heard through the door that leads to the garage. The garage door was not motorized.
Damn! We were all stunned. I jumped up and ran to check the garage, fully expecting the door to be completely raised. Nothing. Everything was normal and undisturbed in there. I checked the fuse box in the kitchen closet. Nothing. I sniffed for a hint of burning and looked around for wisps of smoke. Nothing. There was not a single piece of evidence that anything had just occurred nor a clue to what could have possibly caused all this.
Had I been alone, these events would have me either questioning the state of my sanity or realizing that no one was going to completely believe me. And why should they? It made no sense at all. Fortunately, all four of us saw and heard the exact same thing and there was no drinking involved. We returned to our conversation, wondering what the heck it was that we had all just witnessed.
Ball lightning? An extra-dimensional collision? Matter meets anti-matter? An angel sneezing? Who knows. All I know is that it happened - exactly as described.
Have you guys ever experienced any unexplainable weirdness? Completely sober and with other witnesses, I mean.
Archived Comments
Dread ~
I do know that Satan is capable of anything.
And, his minions, including human luciferian followers? You betcha...
Two occasions. One in my early teens on a Boy Scout camp-out at a ranch in S. Central TX. Another in my later teens on a high school band trip right outside our bus on the highway near Dallas/Ft Worth. Oh, there was that one in the CA. desert on a military base, but that one might still be classified.
More importantly, I would like to introduce everyone to two pretty good authorities on the subject. One is Thomas Horn at Raiders News Network. A plethora of info here in a Christian/Biblical context.
About The Ahriman Gate... "I've got to tell you, they'll put chills down your spine!" - Barbara Simpson (The Babe in the Bunker) WND / Coast to Coast Also, a guy whose resume will blow you away. He is practically a real life Dr. Daniel Jackson from Stargate / SG-1. Check out Michael S Heiser.com. His novel, The Facade will be available again on July 1...
Jun 23, 2007 03:25
Taylor ~
I'm assuming you're referring to UFOs as the your experiences. You didn't give any details!
Dread, I don't put much stock in people who make their living proclaiming these things. Selling books and paid lectures, well, that smacks of opportunism and there's too much motivation for embellishment, even downright prevarication.
Of course, they could be 100% legitimate, honest and really know what they're talking about or actually believe what they're saying, but I'm very skeptical.
I would much sooner believe someone who has absolutely nothing to gain by his story, especially if there are corroborating witnesses.
As far I'm concerned, I neither want to believe nor disbelieve in far-fetched claims. The truth and nothing but the truth is what is important to me, more so than any fantastical notions that would be quite cool if they really did exist.
Jun 23, 2007 04:05
Jamie R ~
Have you guys ever experienced any unexplainable weirdness?
Yeah oh man, this was pretty weird it was
Completely sober and with other witnesses, I mean.
Oh.
Jun 23, 2007 21:03
Jamie R ~
Ball lightning?
I'll use that to describe the birds and the bees one day.
Jun 23, 2007 21:06
Taylor ~
Now that certainly is another way to look at it. I suppose you see a lot of things that way - being upside-down and all...
Jun 24, 2007 02:54
Billy D ~
I lived in a haunted apartment in Maine once when I was young. Just day after day of really messed up stuff. Maybe I'll post on it someday. The furthest wall of my cold storage, off my bedroom, was the abutting wall to the funeral home next door.
Jun 26, 2007 02:42
Taylor ~
Ah, come on. Really? I believe you, Billy D, if you say so. It'd be interesting to read the details.
Whenever something strange occurs, I am searching for logical explanations. You know, like in Scooby-Doo, maybe the funeral home wanted to expand and was trying to scare the residents out...
That entire ghost business brings up a whole lot of afterlife issues that don't jibe with my understanding of what our Bible to say about it.
As such, I don't believe nor ever had reason to believe in ghosts or hauntings. Even so, I would not want to live next to a funeral home nor a cemetery.
Cold storage? Doesn't ring a bell in this Southern brain...
Jun 26, 2007 03:26
Billy D ~
Yeah, I know. I don't really believe in ghosts, and yet, some of the stuff that happened had no other explanation, least one I could think of.
Say, waking up in February, about 3:00 a.m., maybe -20F out, freezing, finding ALL my doors and windows open. Now, I suppose someone could have broken in and done that, but I have my doubts. (There's a long list of this stuff) I don't know. Unexplained to be sure.
Jun 26, 2007 10:49
Taylor ~
Hey, that sorta happened to me - in February too! Woke up freezing, went downstairs to find the double entrance doors slung wide open and the wind howling in. I was living in a lovely isolated house in the Wichita Mountains. Nearest neighbor was like a half mile away.
I shut the doors, tied a rope around the two handles and went back to bed. The lock was broken on the door. No mystery. It had been that way and needed fixing. I had just moved in.
Had a few things happen at that place. One night I'm awakened by the entire room suddenly being lit up from a bright light streaming into the windows. This is upstairs and I'm living in a home isolated on top of a mountain. Talk about getting your attention.
I ran to the window expecting to see a UFO or something... Nope. War games. Flares had lit up the whole night sky. Living next to Fort Sill. OK. Back to bed.
Billy D, did you ever think that maybe you had done that yourself, sleepwalking?
I did that as a child once. My mother had scolded me for not closing my drawers that day. That night, in my sleep, I opened every single drawer in my room and the closet doors too. Don't remember it but when I woke up, there it was. I guess I didn't like being scolded...
Jun 26, 2007 18:16
Dread ~
Of course, they could be 100% legitimate, honest and really know what they're talking about or actually believe what they're saying, but I'm very skeptical.
Taylor
Skepticism is a more noble trait than I believe many fully realize for themselves. In fact, the more operative, appropriate, and accurate term would be "cynicism." We have all heard the phrase, "wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." A more recent very strong acquaintance of mine puts it this way...
Cynicism in it truest form is merely giving the highest honor to truth in the face of horrific iniquity covered in the sweetest vanilla frosting. I don't think there is any question the virtue I admire the most is authenticity. -- David Beck, from A More Personal NoteI certainly share that same virtue. Pastor Horn and Dr. Heiser are definitely not "motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns." None of their works are bestsellers. They never will be. They practically had to form their own publishing outlets just to get printed. Neither are looking for "fame and fortune." If a person really seeks such, then you certainly do not achieve that via promulgating the Truth. It is not rocket science to comprehend that "people [the masses] prefer lies to the Truth." But again, one must determine this for themselves...
Jun 26, 2007 21:39
Taylor ~
The masses are a mess. I hate them.
And well, my take on these things is the same as conspiracies. Just what difference does it make in our day to day lives? We struggle and do the best we can with the reality in front of us.
The hidden things, well, they can stay hidden. Unless they pop up in my face and then I'll deal with it. But, nah, I'm not going to go digging around for them. The clear and present reality of my life is enough of a challenge for me. Perhaps I am too limited.
Pastor Horn and Dr. Heiser have made their own strange experiences their life's work. None of it has anything to do with me and my life's experiences. Therefore, it is not part of my reality. It is not that I don't want to deal with the Truth, it's that certain truths have no bearing on my life.
Jun 26, 2007 22:13
Billy D ~
Well, in closing on this "ghost" stuff, I'll say maybe demon or something is a better word? We certainly know those are around, yes?
I'm with you on the "staying hidden" stuff. There's enough to deal with just with the things I can see in front of me.
On the topic of UFOs, I don't think there is anything coming across space and messing with us. Man-made UFOs? Absolutely. I'm sure if I had full knowledge of what our government has it would blow my mind.
Jun 26, 2007 23:36
Crom ~
One summer night years back we were finishing up band practice in my friend's pole barn out in the middle of nowhere. I had just loaded my rig into the back of my truck and my buddy and I sat on the bumper, finishing a beer and watching him blow smoke rings with his Marlboro by the light of the sodium vapor lamp.
The other fellows had already left, and the woods surrounded the small pool of light by the barn, and his house was about three hundred yards down the driveway. All of a sudden from the treeline about 20 yards away we heard this ungodly inhuman howl, and it was impossibly loud. My ears were still ringing from practice and yet this was so loud and unexpected that I dropped my beer to cover my ears.
I looked at my pal, and leapt for the cab of my truck as he set a landspeed record hauling ass towards his house on foot. I fishtailed my truck and kicked up a ton of dust and gravel pulling out of there. It was pure luck that I didn't crash into a tree, and I was probably doing 90 mph down the dark gravel road.
When I got back to my house I called him to see if he was still alive, and he was - albeit scared shitless with a 12 gauge across his lap. He told me the next day that he didn't sleep all night.
To this day I have no idea what that was, but it was unlike anything I have heard, but it was no mountain lion or panther as I know what they sound like. The sheer volume of that scream was terrifying, and I still get goosebumps thinking about it today.
Jun 27, 2007 15:29
WaterBoy ~
"The other fellows had already left..."
Any chance one of 'em returned?
Good story. You tell it well.
Jun 27, 2007 18:14
Dread ~
Taylor
Jesus clearly commanded us to "not be deceived." [1] What exactly do you think he was speaking of here? Do you honestly believe that we should wait until the beast bites or stings you right on our nose?!? What if the bite/sting is fatal? It's too late.
I don't understand where those who profess to be Christ-ian get this idea that "minding my own business," is biblical. That "keeping to myself," is a "Christ-like" virtue. Understand, that Jesus and the Apostles were speaking in the primary context of "brothers and sisters in Christ." Not among the "unwashed." To them, all we can do, is witness best by example. Anything else that we utter via words, is usually "pearls to swine."
“Am I my brother’s keeper?” Who first uttered those words? It was Cain. The way of Cain, is the way of World. We are not of this world. I'm sorry, I'm digressing a bit. You are probably asking now, "What does all this have to do with UFO phenomenon?" In one word -- deception.
(continued...)
Jun 27, 2007 18:28
Dread ~
If you are further inclined, then you will know how and where to proceed from here. Let me mention one man in particular -- Jacques Vallee. Speilberg based his character Claude Lacombe (François Truffaut) in Close Encounters of the Third Kind on Vallee. Vallee is unique among UFO researchers. An example...
"We are dealing with a yet unrecognized level of consciousness, independent of man but closely linked to the earth.... I do not believe anymore that UFOs are simply the spacecraft of some race of extraterrestrial visitors. This notion is too simplistic to explain their appearance, the frequency of their manifestations through recorded history, and the structure of the information exchanged with them during contact." "[An] impressive parallel [can] be made between UFO occupants and the popular conceptions of demons." "[UFOs can] project images or fabricated scenes designed to change our belief systems." "...human belief... is being controlled and conditioned," "man's concepts are being rearranged," and we may be headed toward "a massive change of human attitudes toward paranormal abilities and extraterrestrial life." "The 'medical examination' to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical or biological framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time and with fewer risks." "...the symbolic display seen by the abductees is identical to the type of initiations ritual or astral voyage that is imbedded in the [occult] traditions of every culture." Thus, "the structure of abduction stories is identical to that of occult initiation rituals."Dr. Heiser specifically builds on Vallee's body of research, together with extensive examination of Scripture and other ancient languages and cultures putting the entire UFO phenomenon (including ALL paranormal issues) in a biblical perspective. The bottom line is this. Jesus commands us to "watch and pray." The "praying" would seem easy enough, but actually it is the hardest. The "watching" is impossible without the "praying." The praying is difficult for most, because we don't have the courage to ask for what specifically to watch. And, when we are told, most still ignore it. Jesus gave us a clear clue in Matt. 24. He mentioned, "in the days of Noah." That points us to Gen. 6. Gen. 6 points us to the Nephilim. What does the Nephilim have to do with UFOs? Everything... For that is the source of it all. Horn and Heiser help explain this further for us better than I know most mere mortals. (continued...)
Jun 27, 2007 19:06
Dread ~
The hidden things, well, they can stay hidden. Unless they pop up in my face and then I'll deal with it. But, nah, I'm not going to go digging around for them.
20 "Where then does wisdom come from? Where does understanding dwell? 21 It is hidden from the eyes of every living thing, concealed even from the birds of the air. (Job 28:20-21One who seeks Wisdom, one who seeks Truth will eventually understand that one must dig. Our education culture [1] and our training is deeply flawed. We cannot rely on it. If one truly "seeks the Kingdom," then one cannot do so without "not being deceived." To not "seek the Kingdom," is a mockery of our Lord God Creator and Saviour. To continue to be willingly deceived is also a mockery. Not fitting for a child of God in His Kingdom. One must finally answer the question for themselves, "Do I seek the Kingdom, or do I seek this World?" I cannot have both. They are simply incompatible. Remember what Jesus said to the "rich man" and the "eye of the needle." It is most unfortunate that ALL of us at one time or another have been grafted to this world. We ask ourselves, "How could this happen?" Well, I believe this study gives us some very good clues. The important thing here is for us to recognize that we must become "ungrafted." Grant it, it IS hard! However, it is somethng that we must do. We are commanded to "Come out of Her." The clear and present reality of my life is enough of a challenge for me... This clear and present reality is an illusion [2]. Sooner or later, we all have to recognize that. This illusion is what serves to keep us from the Truth. Don't focus on it. Focus on the Kingdom... [1] see John Taylor Gatto [2] again -- the deception...
Jun 27, 2007 20:03
Dread ~
I'm sorry, a footnote got cut off in 06.27.07 - 12:33 PM
[1] Luke 21:8; 1 Corinthians 6:9; Galatians 6:7; James 1:16; Revelation 13:14; Revelation 20:10
Jun 27, 2007 20:04
Taylor ~
Nice story, Crom.
That must have made quite an impression for you to still remember it that way. I can't imagine anything of this world making a sound like you described. Good thing you didn't crash. Panic is interesting, huh? Normal brain function seems to shut down and we aren't really in control anymore.
Although, I had the same thought as WaterBoy. Boys will be boys, and they did have musical instruments...
My cousin is always trying to scare me and then he'll laugh himself silly after he's made me jump like a scared cat. I get him back though.
Jun 27, 2007 22:44
Taylor ~
I have never understood this "Come out of her" business. Um, yeah, sure, where? Of course, this is metaphorical.
We are physically in this world. Our physical locality is crucial. Ask the Jews. God also tends to take the physical quite seriously. He set aside a land for His people. Jesus foretold of the Jews destruction. Many things in the Bible deal with the physical - things of this world. We are in a struggle, caught between the world and the not of this world. So?
What is your point here, from the perspective of action? Are you suggesting some kind of action? Does reading book after book written by some human suffice as appropriate action? Does gaining knowledge that cannot be acted on lead to anything? More importantly, does this kind of esoteric knowledge bring one closer to God?
I pray, I read the Bible, I deal with life. I learn from life. Sometimes I fall on my face when my stiff-necked human nature doesn't mind the Holy Spirit.
All this Nephalim stuff, what does this knowledge serve? Yes, there are forces not of this world that are always trying to destroy man. There are factions, cabals, organizations who want to control things. They are all working for the evil one. So? What's new about that?
Please tell me in clear terms how any of this affects me and my relationship to Jesus, my Savior.
You seem to focus on all this as if it's somehow crucial to your salvation. It appears that instead of coming out of her, you are obsessed with her.
Anyway, I like the new gravatar. Is that a masked man? Hard to tell, but he appears nicely mysterious.
Jun 27, 2007 23:42
WaterBoy ~
Taylor, you probably already know this being the techno-wiz that you are -- but in case you (or others reading along) don't...
...you can see a larger image of the gravatar than the one HaloScan provides if you enter this url:
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ID&size=80
For example, Dread's full-size avatar is http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=adaddf6bdb9eb5b60b3555bf9f89c969&size=80
(Looks to me like the eye of some un-Natural being...)
Jun 28, 2007 00:33
Taylor ~
Ack! It is! Thanks, WaterBoy. I was seeing it as something completely different. Should have looked at the larger image.
Dread, Dread... you are one eccentric dude. Almost endearing. :)
See, this blogging is great. I'd never be exposed to the kinds of people I've gotten to know here. Never...
Jun 28, 2007 00:49
WaterBoy ~
That's the spirit!
8)
Jun 28, 2007 03:02
Taylor ~
Well, my statement wasn't totally correct. Being exposed to certain bloggers isn't that great.
There are some creatures who crawl up that I'd just as soon never have any contact with in any way, shape or form. It truly disgusts me when one of those types addresses me by my name.
Jun 28, 2007 08:22
Crom ~
It did later occur to me later that it could have been one or more of the other fellas who set up in the treeline to scare us, but if they had I guarantee you my buddy and I would have been subjected to endless rounds of ribbing since guys love to break each other chops, i.e. "You shoulda seen the look on your faces, ya jackrabbitin' wusses" etc. These boys would have not been able resist teasing us about it if it had been them.
Whatever it was, it was LOUD.
Jun 28, 2007 13:58
Dread ~
Well, first of all about my gravatar...
It is part of a larger picture.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/nHLi4vet.jpg
It is a very small portion of a far larger context. When you examine the full size, you will notice that it is an album cover from one of my favorite band's latest (just released on 6/26). This is an incredible and artistically masterful representation of Milton's Paradise Lost. If you are into this kind of music (symphonic metal), then you will readily see how well the music fits the cover. Their previous work was based on Homer's Odyssey.
I guess my reasoning for choosing the "eye" within this entire canvas, is part of my "apollonian/promethean" personality. I always like to see if people are "judging a book by its cover." Or, if people are willing to "read between the lines." I could have easily chosen to use "Sauron's EYE," and how many would know it was in reference to LOTR?
Anyways, the artwork is just something to marvel at. Multiple messages are presented here. That is the beauty of art interpretation....
Jun 28, 2007 18:25
WaterBoy ~
Dread: "Anyways, the artwork is just something to marvel at."
It is, indeed.
Who painted it? I couldn't make out the signature.
Jun 28, 2007 19:43
Dread ~
Taylor
You ask a very fair question. "What does all this matter?" (Especially for a Christian) "Why should I be concerned about 'not being deceived.'" "Why should I be concerned about these Nephilim?" "Why is it important to "Come out of Her?'" I perceive from all your responses, that I am simply not communicating here. And, therefore I need to try harder. Perhaps, I need to look at all this from a different angle and/or perspective. I will think and pray on this more, and perhaps write an essay on my homepage to try and address these. Thank you Taylor for your input...
Jun 28, 2007 20:09
Dread ~
Waterboy
It took some digging, but it turns out to be from Warren Flanagan...
Symphony X -Paradise Lost ( Ltd + Bonus DVD) The masters of Progressive Symphonic Power Metal are back! · Long awaited new album by the best Progressive Symphonic Power Metal Band · Michael Romeo and his band have returned with their best work to date! · ‘Paradise Lost’ is another milestone in the history of Symphony X · Fantastic artwork by Warren Flanagan (Hollywood illustrator for I Robot, X-Men, Blade) · Mixed by Jens Bogren (Opeth, Soilwork, Amon Amarth) · Mastered at The Cutting Room, Stockholm (Rammstein, In Flames, Dimmu Borgir)
Jun 28, 2007 23:30
Dread ~
On being an eccentric...
ec·cen·tric
adj.
1. Departing from a recognized, conventional, or established norm or pattern. See Synonyms at strange.
n.
1. One that deviates markedly from an established norm, especially a person of odd or unconventional behavior.
Well, I guess I'm going to have to take that as a compliment. I'm afraid, that is what happens when you mix "apollonian" and "promethean" traits. (type and temperament) When I was tested via my father (while he was working on his masters) under the "Myers-Briggs" model, I was very close to the ENFP. But I was equally close to the ENTP. So, I was designated as an ENXP. Therefore, I supposedly equally access both "feeling," and "thinking." If that is not eccentric, then I don't know what is...
Interesting, that I favor both equally Luke's [the scientist/physician "NT"] and John's [the idealist/philosopher "NF"] Gospels. Not to discount the other two, especially Matthew 24. Also, after Jesus it was Luke in Acts 8 that really begins to school us in "deception." He was the first on this after Jesus' ascension into heaven. Later, John in his Gospel (the last to the ecclesia) really hammers on this -- deception. Then again, Paul and Peter do the same all throughout their epistles (letters).
So, to claim ignorance about this deception, and to think nothing of it as being important for our lives, and to further believe that it is not admonished specifically in Scripture is to be quite disingenuous with ourselves if we in fact >profess and more paramountly confess to being members of "The Way."
Back to the focus of this discussion on UFO phenomenon. I'm not going to harp anymore on this Nephilim>, and Gen. 6, and Jesus' admonition in Matt 24 about "the days of Noah." You can study that for yourselves if you so wish. However, this "deception" matter is something we simply cannot ignore. In the above link, you will learn about Simon Magus. Magus means "magician," or "sorcerer." Again, as Vallee points out, this UFO business boils down to demons and sorcery. Regardless if it turns out to be an elaborate govt hoax.
Magus was a Samaritan. As the article shows, Samaritan's lineage go back many millennia to Nimrod and Semiramis to Babylon. Thus, the Babylonian system. Many just don't realize how trapped they are within its clutches. (Heathen and Christian alike). "Come out of her, my people...," (Rev. 18:3-5) from the study of the entire context of Scripture, is clearly pointing to this system of "Nimrod and Semiramis." If it is an obsession [as defined by this world], then so be it. I am not of this world...
Jun 28, 2007 23:43
Taylor ~
Many just don't realize how trapped they are within its clutches.
If you could elaborate, I'd like to know how this is so.
I am not of this world...
How are you not of this world? I'm curious.
I have a very simple mind. My MO in just about anything is to boil it all the way down to its essence - to keep stripping away the outer layers until I can sit back and say, OK, I see now.
So, if I'm appearing to be obtuse it is because I still can't say "I see."
Jun 29, 2007 00:25
WaterBoy ~
Thanks, Dread.
Turns out he has quite an extensive resume as a graphic artist, but apparently no online gallery.
I will check out the album, though.
Jun 29, 2007 00:35
Dread ~
Taylor
Honestly, 2 years ago I did not comprehend any of this. I was just beginning to. You are certainly not obtuse. I believe it is more of (like you say) a process of "pealing the onion." Perhaps, I'm being too quick with you and others, and should help you gradually to "peal the onion" at your own pace. I'm not sure what it exactly is. That is why some see and some presently don't. I guess it just has a lot to do with the preparing of the mind. I need to slow down a bit, and as I said before "rethink" this. Just because I believe I "get it," does not mean that others do as well within the same threshold. It is frustrating for me, that others don't, or simply will not. My younger brother, for instance, just is not into history. Understanding REAL history is a big part of this comprehension. Bear with me please, as I will likewise be patient with you. I do believe you have the genuine desire/will to comprehend this all. Being that, eventually you certainly will...
Jun 30, 2007 00:29
Dread ~
Cool Waterboy
If you are into SX, let me know. Curious as to what other bands/music you are into..
Jun 30, 2007 00:31
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